Water and the Power of Thought

This post was inspired by the movie what the bleep do we know Below is a short video from this movie showing pictures of water crystals and how our thoughts, words, and intentions affect the structure of water crystals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccCsSXuMlLY

If you would like to view the full movie you can watch it on the link below.

What the bleep do we know

Water has a very important message for us. Water is telling us to take a much deeper look at our selves. When we do look at our selves through the mirror of water, the message becomes amazingly, crystal, clear. We know that human life is directly connected to the quality of our water, both within and all around us.



The photographs and information in this article reflect the work of Masaru Emoto, a creative and visionary Japanese researcher. Mr. Emoto has published an important book, "The Message from
Water," from the findings of his worldwide research If you have any doubt that your thoughts affect everything in, and around you, the information and photographs that are presented here, taken from the book of his published results, will change your mind and alter your beliefs, profoundly.


Sanbu-ichi Yusui Spring water


Japan Shimanto River, referred to as the last clean stream in Japan


Antarctic Ice


Fountain in Lourdes, France


Biwako Lake, the largest lake at the center of Japan and the water pool of the Kinki Region. Pollution is getting worse.


Yodo River, Japan, pours into the Bay of Osaka. The river passes through most of the major cities in Kasai.


Untreated Distilled Water


Fujiwara Dam, before offering a prayer


Fujiwara Dam, after offering a prayer

Thoughts and Words Affect Water

After seeing water react to different environmental conditions, pollution and music, Mr. Emoto and colleagues decided to see how thoughts and words affected the formation of untreated, distilled, water crystals, using words typed onto paper by a word processor and taped on glass bottles overnight.

The same procedure was performed using the names of deceased persons. The waters were then frozen and photographed.


Heavy Metal Music


You Make Me Sick, I Will Kill You


Adolph Hitler


Thank You


Love and Appreciation


Mother Teresa

These photographs show the incredible reflections of water, as alive and highly responsive to every one of our emotions and thoughts. It is quite clear that water easily takes on the vibrations and energy of its environment, whether toxic and polluted or naturally pristine.

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm

Many Blessings

thats totally awesome. i would have never even thought of how thoughts would affect water. thanks for posting this

yeah i found that part of the video very interesting. It's amazing how water reacts to the blessings and vibrations of the energies around us.absolutely amazing.Also i have been receiving mail from missionarys and the fountain of lourdes in france is said to have healing powers.

How interesting 90% of our body is water, so our thoughts affect 90% of our physical body. This is a great example of biblical saying " what the man thinketh so as he/she" . Very very interesting. Thank you for posting this, it was very informative.

parrotlover wrote:Also i have been receiving mail from missionarys and the fountain of lourdes in france is said to have healing powers.

Very Interesting Parrotlover, the power of prayer is exceptionally powerful, this fountain must have healing powers because of all the blessings from all the people. We have the power of prayer and it is a strong motivation and intent to send our positive energy out to where ever it is needed.

Many Blessings

luda wrote:How interesting 90% of our body is water, so our thoughts affect 90% of our physical body. This is a great example of biblical saying " what the man thinketh so as he/she" . Very very interesting. Thank you for posting this, it was very informative. Thank You

It is amazing luda i actually watched the video but for some reason did not take into account and realize actually how much of our body is made up of water, sometimes i struggle with my attention span, anyhow what if we were to ask for a blessing on our bodies and the water in them, could we actually send this loving energy to ourselves and change the water crystals to it's perfect form?

With that said i feel all blessings and prayers come from a higher place from the creator of the universe. I must stay humble

Many Blessings

i can't stand negativity
and I've been rolling in it
of late for over a year
but it's worse lately

I drink water daily and
everything gets worse without it
I also add oxygen drops to my bottle water
I really don't want to be without them

no one said we didn't have to take care
of your bodies - the temple - did they...
that would be too easy....
:~~:

d-knots wrote:i can't stand negativity
and I've been rolling in it
of late for over a year
but it's worse lately

I drink water daily and
everything gets worse without it
I also add oxygen drops to my bottle water
I really don't want to be without them

no one said we didn't have to take care
of your bodies - the temple - did they...
that would be too easy....

I too do not like negativity d-knots, i choose to be away from any situation that is negative, if at work, around my house, or out in public. This is the hardest thing to deal with, then i look at myself and see the negativity that is in me, and realize this is not the true me why am i in this negative state? What can i do to change this? One thing that i have found is being Humble has been very helpful, sometimes i feel i can take it upon my shoulders and i am not saying that this is the case for you, but i have noticed we all need help from one another, especially in those times of struggle. I will say that to me your posts are very positive and they have helped me in many ways, and i am sure they have helped many other members here. You must be on the right path, many people do not care about their bodies (the temple) you said it right that it would be to easy not to care. I feel that our personal path can be a struggle at times, but isn't it much tougher to do what's good and easy to do what's is bad for us? I think it is all about being Humble and being the light for others.

Many Blessings

when I was younger
someone made a snide comment
or so I thought
as to why I was so humble....
well, it was my upbringing to
serve others...
not exactly fitting in a me-me
neighborhood....

maybe, needless to say,
we parted ways a long time ago
but what he said had a enormous impact
in my quest for who I am
finding i was not always humble....

worst is sometimes we had to be selfish to survive
or get to our next step of development.....LOL it's complicated
but now the simple life is much appreciated....

MORE WATER TO YOU!

I agree d-knots sometimes it can be very complicated, i think when we give of ourselves kindness & compassion towards others there life becomes full and enjoyable. To help others is one the greatest gifts we can share with humanity.

As he has impacted your life, i am sure where ever he is you have impacted his life as well. We affect all we meet and the people that come into our lives also affect us.

seems to be that everything has a purpose no?

Many Blessings

I read about Emoto and his work.
His 'science' and his 'logic' is faulty.
It is an emotionally warm fuzzy notion, though; intellectually it fails.

nameless wrote:I read about Emoto and his work.
His 'science' and his 'logic' is faulty.
It is an emotionally warm fuzzy notion, though; intellectually it fails.

Please explain more and let’s have a discussion.

WhiteShaman wrote:

nameless wrote:I read about Emoto and his work.
His 'science' and his 'logic' is faulty.
It is an emotionally warm fuzzy notion, though; intellectually it fails.

Please explain more and let’s have a discussion.

I would be willing, but I think that I will be deemed 'negative' and demonized. It has happened before after 'threatening' 'beliefs' with critical thought/philosophy.
I went to Emoto's website and found some basic fallacies in his logic.
If you wish, and think that I will not be hung in effigy, I can go back and find the most glaring for discussion.
I did think that overall both the 'bleeps' had some good food for thought, especially after getting past initial 'biases' and 'translating' into my reality..

Nameless i respect your thought & philosophy on this subject it is most welcoming and brings a new perspective to the Truth although i must say i would love to see proof of what you have stated above about Emoto's 'science' and his 'logic' being faulty. This would make for a really good conversation. Oh by the way welcome to Spirits Journey

Many Blessings

Spirit-Being wrote:Nameless i respect your thought & philosophy on this subject it is most welcoming and brings a new perspective to the Truth although i must say i would love to see proof of what you have stated above about Emoto's 'science' and his 'logic' being faulty. This would make for a really good conversation. Oh by the way welcome to Spirits Journey

Many Blessings

Thank you for the welcome.
(Though real 'blessings' are painful! (negative?))
I had a few free moments, so I offer this from the site HERE;

"If you have any doubt that your thoughts affect everything in, and around you, the information and photographs that are presented here, taken from the book of his published results, will change your mind and alter your beliefs, profoundly."

Thoughts do not 'affect' the environment, 'thoughts' are a perceived feature of the perceived environment/Universe.

"Water is a very malleable substance. Its physical shape easily adapts to whatever environment is present. But its physical appearance is not the only thing that changes, the molecular shape also changes. The energy or vibrations of the environment will change the molecular shape of water. In this sense water not only has the ability to visually reflect the environment but it also molecularly reflects the environment."

The molecular shape of water, H2O, is a little Mickey Mouse head and ears of hydrogen and oxygen. This does not change. The crystalline structures, however, are supposedly all unique.

And this is just the first few paragraphs of the site...

Then he goes on to display one single unique photo of a water crystal from different contexts and goes on to commit the cognitive fallacy of composition;

composition fallacy: when the conclusion of an argument depends on an erroneous characteristic from parts of something to the whole or vice versa. (e.g., Humans have consciousness and human bodies and brains consist of atoms; therefore, atoms have consciousness. Or: a word processor program consists of many bytes; therefore a byte forms a fraction of a word processor.)

And a confirmation bias;

confirmation bias (similar to observational selection): This refers to a form of selective thinking that focuses on evidence that supports what believers already believe while ignoring evidence that refutes their beliefs. Confirmation bias plays a stronger role when people base their beliefs upon faith, tradition and prejudice. For example, if someone believes in the power of prayer, the believer will notice the few "answered" prayers while ignoring the majority of unanswered prayers (which would indicate that prayer has no more value than random chance at worst or a placebo effect, when applied to health effects, at best).

How can one unique water crystal exemplify anything about a practically unlimited 'set' of unique water crystals (XLS) in any particulat environment? Of course, a few thousand sample frozen water XLS does tell us about the temperature of the environment (freezing), to some extent; might be 32F degrees, might be 22F degrees, etc...

Also seems to be the fallacy of;

confusion of correlation and causation: (e.g., More men play chess than women, therefore, men make better chess players than women. Or: Children who watch violence on TV tend to act violently when they grow up.) But does television programming cause violence or do violence oriented children prefer to watch violent programs? Perhaps an entirely different reason creates violence not related to television at all. Stephen Jay Gould called the invalid assumption that correlation implies cause as "probably among the two or three most serious and common errors of human reasoning" (The Mismeasure of Man).

Also, perhaps, among others;

post hoc, ergo propter hoc: Latin for "It happened after, so it was caused by." Similar to a non sequitur, but time dependent. (e.g. She got sick after she visited China, so something in China caused her sickness.) Perhaps her sickness derived from something entirely independent from China.

Etc... etc... etc...

"Energized water has had its molecules returned to their original life-giving, super moisturizing state. This allows maximum moisture absorption into the cells of your body, pets and plants; a major key to healing, and the maintenance of health and vitality."

And what, exactly, is "energized water"?
'Energized' with what energy? How? Links to the experimental data in support of his claims seem rather... missing!

Also, he has (something to gain) something to sell; seminars, interviews, books, t-shirts, coffee mugs...
That gives his 'science' an agenda/bias.

His photos of 'representative' water XLS are differing in focus, clarity, distance, etc... On one he takes a distant complete foto and another he zooms in on a little area of the XLS that (seem to) justify his claims.

Sorry, it just goes on and on in this fashion; more and more fallacies, more and more assumptions from minimal data, more and more books to sell...

That's my take on this, anyway...
It's there for anyone fairly well versed in science and critical thinking to evaluate.
Actually, if I had another high school class to teach (how to think critically/philosophy), I'd lead them to Emoto's site and we could easily spend a month benefitting from the critical analysis of his work and thoughts.
Peace

Re: " thoughts and words affect water" Is it the actual words or is it in the way we say them, our tone, as in, angry, calm, loud, quiet, the same goes for people talking to their plants, they say it helps the plants to grow better. I guess in reality every living thing/organism, will react to sound and tone.

Vanilla2 wrote:I guess in reality every living thing/organism, will react to sound and tone.

That seems that one definition of 'living', that something can 'react' to stimulus.
It would be an 'unusual' definition of 'living' that includes 'water'.

nameless wrote:

Vanilla2 wrote:I guess in reality every living thing/organism, will react to sound and tone.

That seems that one definition of 'living', that something can 'react' to stimulus.
It would be an 'unusual' definition of 'living' that includes 'water'.

Quote from Phaelosopher Worldpress.com

When we see water as living substance, possessing a consciousness and intelligence of its own, which it can communicate through us, it becomes reason to look at it, and life differently. Honoring the water that we drink with our highest thoughts and intentions before consuming it would change our experience with it. Honoring each other in the same way would do the same thing.

I tend to look for possibilities and experiences, rather than being a critical thinker but i will say that everything that each one of us thinks we know the answers to, will one day be refined in some way. The reason i say this is because science often explains things through their own hypothesis. Randomness has very little room in a spiritual mindset as Determinism has very little room in a scientific mindset. But truly are Science & Spirituality in search of the exact same thing which is the truth? How do we find Truth? As for prayer i am sure many prayers have not been answered, but what of the prayers that were answered do we just throw it out and say it was chance? I found the best way to learn is through our own experiences, i mean how many things have we read on the internet that were false but we believe them because we like to think of humanity as honest, so we buy into it. I told my girlfriend once about something i read on the internet and i believe it was from Buddha, when he said:

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
~Buddha~

I wonder is critical thinking and an experience one of the same?

Thank You nameless you have sparked something in me that i have not seen for quite some time, true critical thinkers and true believers could actually create a healthy balance, i feel that is what is happening here. As i love being in the clouds i also must realize that i am here on the earth.

Many Blessings

Hello nameless, I know I asked to understand better what it was you found faulty about this mans work but I have to be honest in that your reply, as in depth and interesting as it was, had my head spinning.
This is because I really had no thoughts either way on what he presented here in this thread and I lack the facts needed to discuss this intelligently with you.
The good news is I think what Vanilla and Spirit-being shared adds a beautiful touch to this topic and I think we all walk away better because of this discussion.
Your thoughts and your knowledge are always welcome. Thank you for sharing them.

Vanilla quoted:
When we see water as living substance, possessing a consciousness and intelligence of its own, which it can communicate through us, it becomes reason to look at it, and life differently. Honoring the water that we drink with our highest thoughts and intentions before consuming it would change our experience with it. Honoring each other in the same way would do the same thing.

Spirit-Being stated:
I found the best way to learn is through our own experiences, i mean how many things have we read on the internet that were false but we believe them because we like to think of humanity as honest, so we buy into it. I told my girlfriend once about something i read on the internet and i believe it was from Buddha, when he said: Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
~Buddha~

I wonder is critical thinking and an experience one of the same?

Vanilla2 wrote:Quote from Phaelosopher Worldpress.com

When we see water as living substance, possessing a consciousness and intelligence of its own, which it can communicate through us, it becomes reason to look at it, and life differently.

Q) When we see a dog's tail as a leg, how many legs does that healthy dog have?
A) Four! Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it so.

Honoring the water that we drink with our highest thoughts and intentions before consuming it would change our experience with it. Honoring each other in the same way would do the same thing.

I'd tend to agree with you there.
Not that 'honoring' something (whatever that means to you) 'changes' anything, but it provides different 'context', and thus, a different experience.
I'd guess that is what the bible means about consuming food (whatever kind, water included) with "prayer and thanksgiving" "changes our experience with it"...

If you “experienced” or “realized” water as living substance, possessing a consciousness and intelligence of its own, would you then call what seems to be a leg, a tail?
In other words, do you believe that you can “sense” or “know” things apart from simply using the mind?
The mind can only see what it believes it can see. If you do not believe that water can have a consciousness of its own then you can not ever know it to be true using just your mind.
The bigger problem is, the subconscious mind may be the reason we may not believe something and we usually are not even aware of it!

Spirit-Being wrote:I tend to look for possibilities and experiences, rather than being a critical thinker but i will say that everything that each one of us thinks we know the answers to, will one day be refined in some way.

The Universe is perceived differently every moment/percept.
Scientific theories often change and transform, are never considered 'final' or 'conclusive', so, yes, you are correct.
That is why "the more I learn, the less I 'know'!"
'Knowing' is not science, but religion, beliefs, ego.

The reason i say this is because science often explains things through their own hypothesis. Randomness has very little room in a spiritual mindset as Determinism has very little room in a scientific mindset.

I have little use for 'minds' that are 'set'. Like the difference between an oak and a willow; under the load of 'truth', the mighty oak shatters, where the limber and stretcky willow merely accomodates and continues to thrive.

But truly are Science & Spirituality in search of the exact same thing which is the truth?

I'd say that depends on the nature of the individual 'seeker'.
I see where 'science' (quantum physics) and millennial mysticism are finally coinciding.
The term 'scientific enlightenment' is still dripping wet, but is in use.
All roads truly lead the sincere seeker to Rome!

How do we find Truth?

"Know thyself!"
We never 'find' Truth.
Of course, many egoically believe that they 'found/possess' Truth, so, for them, they have, but "the Tao/Truth that can be found/possessed/spoken is not the Tao/Truth!"

As for prayer i am sure many prayers have not been answered, but what of the prayers that were answered do we just throw it out and say it was chance?

Depends whether we are thinking critically or not. One can see it many different ways. A 'believer' will find justification all over the place for his beliefs. It is a pstchological/emotional process; emotional needs being filled, etc...
Critically examined, if there were a Xtian god that actually grants wishes/demands/pleadings, you's have to find your own way through wht It sometimes grants and sometimes doesn't. There are many 'rationalizations' and 'justifications' that are used. Cognitive fallacies and cognitive errors all go in support of 'beliefs'. Beliefs have two imperatives; survive and propagate! All sorts of horrors and attrocities have been unleashed on mankind and the environment in the name of 'beliefs'.
Philosophers have never killed priests!

I found the best way to learn is through our own experiences, i mean how many things have we read on the internet that were false but we believe them because we like to think of humanity as honest, so we buy into it.

We? Not critical thinkers!
(For every website/expert, there is an equal and opposite website/expert!)
Depends on the individual Perspective.

I told my girlfriend once about something i read on the internet and i believe it was from Buddha, when he said:

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
~Buddha~

Why include this? I have heard it used when critically evaluating the nature of 'beliefs', which we are not.
A 'believer' (and his beliefs, no matter what they might be) is (are) no less valid a real and true feature of the complete Universe as anyone/anything else.
Personally, I have no 'beliefs'.

I wonder is critical thinking and an experience one of the same?

Can we 'translate' the term 'experience' to perceive?
We (Conscious Perspectives) perceive the Universe. In that perception does the Universe exist.
We perceive 'thoughts', we perceive 'dreams', we perceive 'our bodies', we perceive 'hamburgers', etc... Whatever is perceived, exists. There can be no thing that exists that is not perceived by Conscious Perspective (us). Our 'perceptions' are our experience.

Thank You nameless you have sparked something in me that i have not seen for quite some time, true critical thinkers and true believers could actually create a healthy balance, i feel that is what is happening here. As i love being in the clouds i also must realize that i am here on the earth.

You're welcome.
Reality is sooooo much stranger/wilder/dangerous/greater than fiction!
"The problem with 'fiction' is that it must be believable!"
We are the Universe!
The First Law of Soul Dynamics;
"For every Conscious Perspective, there is an equal and opposite Conscious Perspective!" - Book of Fudd (4:20)
All equally valid/real (in context).

Many Blessings

Duuuuude! Real 'blessings' are painful!
Thanks anyway...
*__-
peace

WhiteShaman wrote:If you “experienced” or “realized” water as living substance, possessing a consciousness and intelligence of its own, would you then call what seems to be a leg, a tail?

Me? I'm a critical thinker, so I do not attribute such anthropomorphic qualities to water, H2O, or rocks, or dead wood on the seashore or a piece of metal. Others might perceive them differently and that would be their reality. All perceived 'realities' are real features of the complete Universe.
"The complete Universe is defined/described as the sum-total of all Conscious Perspectives!" - Book of Fudd (9:02:10)

In other words, do you believe that you can “sense” or “know” things apart from simply using the mind?

I harbor no beliefs.
What we see around us is 'Mind'.
Beyond our eyelids there is total and absolute darkness. Beyond our ears is absolute silence, etc...
There is no, nor can there be existence beyond the 'perception' (mind?) of it.
Perceiver and perception are one.
If you mean 'mind' as in 'thoughts', then, yes, we can directly perceive 'stuff' thoughtlessly, as during meditation/Zen, for instance.

The mind can only see what it believes it can see.

I don't think that I would agree with this. But I would agree that people 'believe' what they see, generally.

If you do not believe that water can have a consciousness of its own then you can not ever know it to be true using just your mind.

It can be 'true' for you.
For me;
Evidence vs beliefs
Critical thought vs beliefs
'Critical thought' is inversely proportional to 'belief', the more of one, the less of the other.
I needn't 'believe' that water is wet at room temperature, that is my direct perception, reality.

The bigger problem is, the subconscious mind may be the reason we may not believe something and we usually are not even aware of it!

I do not 'believe' in such a thing as 'subconscious'. We are varying degrees of Consciousness, larger and smaller Perspectives.
Again, where there is 'critical thought', there can be no beliefs.
And vice versa.

nameless wrote:

WhiteShaman wrote:If you “experienced” or “realized” water as living substance, possessing a consciousness and intelligence of its own, would you then call what seems to be a leg, a tail?

Me? I'm a critical thinker, so I do not attribute such anthropomorphic qualities to water, H2O, or rocks, or dead wood on the seashore or a piece of metal. Others might perceive them differently and that would be their reality. All perceived 'realities' are real features of the complete Universe.
"The complete Universe is defined/described as the sum-total of all Conscious Perspectives!" - Book of Fudd (9:02:10)

In other words, do you believe that you can “sense” or “know” things apart from simply using the mind?

I harbor no beliefs.
What we see around us is 'Mind'.
Beyond our eyelids there is total and absolute darkness. Beyond our ears is absolute silence, etc...
There is no, nor can there be existence beyond the 'perception' (mind?) of it.
Perceiver and perception are one.
If you mean 'mind' as in 'thoughts', then, yes, we can directly perceive 'stuff' thoughtlessly, as during meditation/Zen, for instance.

The mind can only see what it believes it can see.

I don't think that I would agree with this. But I would agree that people 'believe' what they see, generally.

If you do not believe that water can have a consciousness of its own then you can not ever know it to be true using just your mind.

It can be 'true' for you.
For me;
Evidence vs beliefs
Critical thought vs beliefs
'Critical thought' is inversely proportional to 'belief', the more of one, the less of the other.
I needn't 'believe' that water is wet at room temperature, that is my direct perception, reality.

The bigger problem is, the subconscious mind may be the reason we may not believe something and we usually are not even aware of it!

I do not 'believe' in such a thing as 'subconscious'. We are varying degrees of Consciousness, larger and smaller Perspectives.
Again, where there is 'critical thought', there can be no beliefs.
And vice versa.

I like what you have said and I understand and probably agree with most, if not all of it but before I can say that for sure and comment intelligently, I must ask you what you mean exactly by “critical thought”?
Thanks!