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Post by Guest on April 22nd 2013, 10:50 am

This was a recent blog by Michael Prescott,which I found very interesting.
For the entire blog see below link
http://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2013/04/the-slaughter-of-the-nabiim.html

I copied the beginning to give readers a taste of what he wrote.

Julian Jaynes's magnum opus The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind is one of those books that are probably wrong in their central thesis, yet so full of provocative and fascinating ideas that reading them becomes its own reward. Recently I was thumbing through my well-worn copy when I came across Jayne's fascinating account of what he calls "the sons of the nabiim" (a term that is apparently his own, since it does not return many hits in a Google search).

The nabiim were prophets of ancient Israel, though as Jaynes points out, prophecy as understood in those days was concerned with much more than foretelling the future. The prophets were thought to be mouthpieces for the Almighty, delivering moral instruction, political and military advice, and social commentary. The famous prophets - men like Amos and Isaiah - are still revered in the Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition. Edith Hamilton's Spokesmen for God is an excellent presentation of their groundbreaking moral teachings.

Though it might be taken as blasphemy by some believers today, the fact is that the nabiim were essentially mediums or channelers, who entered a trancelike state and allowed another personality to speak through them. This other personality was often wiser and more morally and spiritually advanced than the nabi himself. Amos, for instance, was a common fruit-picker until the spirit of the Lord came over him, after which he earned the special protection of King Jereboam.
I hope you enjoy it.
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Post by Aussiepom on April 22nd 2013, 11:20 am

So much we do not know about religion from far back. Israel had it's own prophets then,Stephen. That is interesting.
When I think of religion and that includes spiritualism,it is surprising how many countries have their history in spiritualism but the subject has laid forgotten.

I enjoyed reading about that,Stephen.

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Post by Guest on April 22nd 2013, 11:29 am

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Post by laura ann on April 23rd 2013, 9:39 am

Is nablim another or shorter version of the word Nephilim?
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Post by Guest on April 23rd 2013, 10:07 am

Dear Laura Ann,
No I don't think so.It seems to me this is
the way Jaynes decided to spell N'viim which means
prophets in Hebrew.Sometimes "v" is written as "b"
in the english translation from the hebrew.
The Nephilim were the sons and daughters of the gods and
were giants.(I have a feeling you know this)
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Post by laura ann on April 24th 2013, 10:19 am

The Nephilim were the sons and daughters of the gods and
were giants.(I have a feeling you know this)
Of course I did but they also layed with the woman of earth.
Thus as they procreated then the children could have also been prophets. I mean it as seriously we have prophets/seers/psychics in all races, generations etc.
The naming took me to nabiim could have been a genration procreated by the nephilim...
who we were ....does not make who we become
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Post by Guest on April 24th 2013, 11:56 am

Dear Laura Ann,
Your idea of the Nephilim being the source or original origin of
psychic ability in mankind is certainly a reasonable one.
The only difficulty I can see is with our DNA.
Our mitochondrial DNA goes back about 150,000 to 200,000 years.
This means the Nephilim should have been present on
Earth around about then to breed with a people
who before then did not have our present DNA.
Their children would have been like us.
This scenario does not fit the biblical account but the biblical
account is probably not accurate.
Your idea would explain the sudden emergence of modern man.

How our type of man appeared on the scene remains a mystery.
It represented a big jump in consciousness.
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Post by Guest on April 25th 2013, 2:28 am

Dear Laura Ann,
I had a very strange dream last night.
In this dream I was a young woman and you were
my grandmother.(I do not know how I knew this was you I just knew)
We were together in a pleasant room
with a bed in it and you were holding a blue blanket.
This blanket was a type of magical blanket which you
as a very powerful psychic had designed to hide me.
The Nephilim were on their way to our village to kill
all of the men and to rape all the women .You said
to me to take the blanket and wrap it around me
and hide under the bed when these Nephilim arrived.
Both of us were very afraid.
The dream conveyed to me the impression that the Nephilim although beautiful in shape were evil in
their spirit and loved to kill and torture.They were to
strong for us and as a people we were doomed.
We were the great psychics not the Nephilim.
Also we spiritually were very beautiful and loving.Physically we were very delicate and rather small
and could never stand against these Nephilim.
All the above knowledge came with dream.
How true it is I have no idea.Still the brutality of mankind
rather than the psychic may have come from the Nephilim.
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Post by laura ann on April 25th 2013, 11:21 am

Your idea of the Nephilim being the source or original origin of
psychic ability in mankind is certainly a reasonable one.
I could also be blowing bubbles out of my bubble blower lol
thing is the second I read the Nabiim word the word Nephalim was in my head. If I have learned nothing in the last fifteen years I have learned trust when that happens. It came for a reason. Why is always the uncertantity.
Also look at the fact mitachondrial was only discovered 50 years ago in my lifetime. Now also look at we are actually in the infant stage of creation and learning. The old say nephalim times we were very very very advanced. Look at also how much we have accomplished genetically in just our lifetimes. Think of also how limited we are. We may not have discovered ...yet.... how to read mitocondrial that far back.
Gosh our dna stranding is changing daily...more strands being added etc.... all to elevate us to where we possibly were when we were advanced. Never rule out what science has not found yet.
Either way I feel deep within somehow the two words are related.
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on your dream:::::::
I am not surrised we may have been conencted in another life. We always reconnect to who has always been in a life with us previously. I doubt it has been our only life together.
We were the great psychics not the Nephilim.
ahhhhhh and they procreated children which uhhhhhhhhhh would hold genetically the phychc abiliites of the mothers.Regardless of how good or bad the Neph's were.
All the above knowledge came with dream.
How true it is I have no idea.
To me this is the beauty of conversations..... even if just based on a feeling they have the power to bring forth in visuals and dreams things we have held dormant in our subconscious....I am a firm believer that somewhere within your dream is some things created by the conversation and some actual truths. To discern which is which is the difficulty.
Lovely thought provoking thinking going on. I actually had adream visual that occured jsut before wakign of a person wrapped in blanket or cape or something who ahd a child almost papoose liek on their back that seemed ot be going in a direction then seeing somethign and quickly changing direction.
I remember saying to myself 'lord what on earth was that all about'
lol....so your dream surprised me not.
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Post by Guest on April 25th 2013, 11:51 am

Dear Laura Ann,
Thank you for your warm response.I would like to say more but
I am busy helping my wife with one of our grandchildren's birthday party
and my mind is not in the right mood to write what
I would like to say.Perhaps I will start a new thread on that or PM you
if that would be OK?
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Post by laura ann on April 25th 2013, 12:58 pm

of course you can PM me...anyone can
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Post by sunmystic on April 25th 2013, 2:46 pm

The "Nephalim", "The new batch." I wonder if they will be allowed to cross with humankind again? sunny
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Post by laura ann on April 25th 2013, 5:46 pm



The "Nephalim", "The new batch." I wonder if they will be allowed to cross with humankind again? sunny
what an interesting statement...thing is their are so many theories on who or what the nephalim actually were.some say fallen angels which can be interpreted evil angels, dark angels or even angels simply living a earth life to gain understanding of emotions etc..some accounts say they were a race of giants who slept with normal size earrth women .
some say just arace of giants that were here before human form were.
some say they were a race of beings ( non human)who were more enlightened then all and were here before man but some how became corrupted by their baser needs.
truth is who knows other then they seem to by all accounts have been psychic gifted and larger then life and most accounts say they slept with women of normal size.

So then when humankind cross again ..........many of us have to go back to be related in some ways so the answer would have to be Yes.
Cause if we go their genetics go. If we trace our lineage back far enough we are all going to end up with the same beginning.

Sorry Stephen we seem to have gotten off topic here from your original post.
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Post by Guest on April 25th 2013, 11:27 pm

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Post by laura ann on April 26th 2013, 10:57 am

thanks Stephen.
Last night ..rather early morning as i lay there awake but not up lol
I was shown three things then a text.
a tree like a mighty oak but up close to where i could see the width of it and the bark
a fairy flitting about
and a person ...very masculine popped in
I then got a paper with writing on it saying
1 part tree bark
1 part fairy
2 parts human
needless to say I was was like what the heck!!!!!!!!!!!
then my mind went Neph or nabiim
I had asked to be shown some clarity on the whole who were the neph's in truth before I went to bed.
At first I thought this made no sense and how did it relate to it all. But my mind then remembered how advanced we were then and how we were like Atlantians masters of genetic manipulation. Think of all the creatures half human half animal or reptilian or bird we know of in history.
So if you manipulate the dna stranding of a huge strong tree
the magical , mystical, intouch with nature and other realms fairy
and the half female and half male aspects of humans genetics
mix together fully
youy would come out with a very very strong, large sized, prophet, seer, msytic, psychic, male or female that looks like a human as we know them .
Of course this is just me thinking outside the box trying to make what I saw fit what my thoughts had been the last few days. Could be hoooy fooooy or truth..
What I do not do is ever rule anything totally out as eventually it makes some sense.
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Post by Guest on April 26th 2013, 12:11 pm

Dear Laura Ann,
I do not see the Nephilm in a positive way.They represent to
me a complete perversion of the masculine.The 1 part bark
is their inherent stubborness and refusal to change their ways.
The bark of a tree is often hard and difficult to remove or change,just like
some humans.
They also are mercurial,just like fairies.Perhaps they suffer from attention
deficit disorder.
The 2 parts human may not refer to gender but the good and the bad or if
one likes the duality of mankind.
On a deeper level the Nephilim may represent a warning to man not to place
to much faith in the masculine side of mankind and men should pay more
attention to the feminine within.
Of course this representation is as a result of my dream and is what I wanted to
say earlier on.

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Post by sunmystic on April 26th 2013, 12:28 pm

laura ann wrote:


The "Nephalim", "The new batch." I wonder if they will be allowed to cross with humankind again? sunny
what an interesting statement...thing is their are so many theories on who or what the nephalim actually were.some say fallen angels which can be interpreted evil angels, dark angels or even angels simply living a earth life to gain understanding of emotions etc..some accounts say they were a race of giants who slept with normal size earrth women .
some say just arace of giants that were here before human form were.
some say they were a race of beings ( non human)who were more enlightened then all and were here before man but some how became corrupted by their baser needs.
truth is who knows other then they seem to by all accounts have been psychic gifted and larger then life and most accounts say they slept with women of normal size.

So then when humankind cross again ..........many of us have to go back to be related in some ways so the answer would have to be Yes.
Cause if we go their genetics go. If we trace our lineage back far enough we are all going to end up with the same beginning.

Sorry Stephen we seem to have gotten off topic here from your original post.

Well, whoever the "Nephalim" were, the Atlantis folk got their hands on some of the "Nephalim's" genetic material and mixed it with animal genetics to create the part human(?) part animal creatures which later became known as the original "Fae" Smile which then mixed with the human population. The first offspring of these "Fae" moved into Egypt and established the first Egyptian Dynasty. Some of them moved into India and some into Greece. Some became the Celtic race and some became the Germanic races. Collectively speaking they basically became the white race Smile which is now pretty mixed in with the rest of the races. sunny
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Post by sunmystic on April 26th 2013, 12:29 pm

skfarblum wrote:Dear Laura Ann,
I do not see the Nephilm in a positive way.They represent to
me a complete perversion of the masculine.The 1 part bark
is their inherent stubborness and refusal to change their ways.
The bark of a tree is often hard and difficult to remove or change,just like
some humans.
They also are mercurial,just like fairies.Perhaps they suffer from attention
deficit disorder.
The 2 parts human may not refer to gender but the good and the bad or if
one likes the duality of mankind.
On a deeper level the Nephilim may represent a warning to man not to place
to much faith in the masculine side of mankind and men should pay more
attention to the feminine within.
Of course this representation is as a result of my dream and is what I wanted to
say earlier on.

Stephen

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Post by laura ann on April 26th 2013, 12:32 pm

Dear Laura Ann,
I do not see the Nephilm in a positive way.They represent to
me a complete perversion of the masculine.The 1 part bark
is their inherent stubborness and refusal to change their ways.
The bark of a tree is often hard and difficult to remove or change,just like
some humans.
They also are mercurial,just like fairies.Perhaps they suffer from attention
deficit disorder.
The 2 parts human may not refer to gender but the good and the bad or if
one likes the duality of mankind.
On a deeper level the Nephilim may represent a warning to man not to place
to much faith in the masculine side of mankind and men should pay more
attention to the feminine within.
Of course this representation is as a result of my dream and is what I wanted to
say earlier on.
that makes sense ot me as well. all aspects of a totality
left is feminine and negative..right is masculine and positive.
I looked at it looking to the gender you went to the pos negs..
I also agree tree bark is difficult to remove and hard BUT I have also experienced tree bark that is fragile and crumbles when held. I have experienced tree bark that almost slides of the core. Again more possible meanings.
I do totally agree humankind is trying to and needs to more embrace the feminine. Yet it is also considered the negative side of things/self.
Not all fairy beings are mercurial. Some are very much healers, some so kind they can make you weep with the enormity of it.Again you cannot clump a form of beings into a box called all the same.
I cannot personally jump to the conclusion that Nephalim were evil, bad etc. Not saying they weren't just saying I can't leap there due to too many interpretations on who they were and what they were about. One account is of them being holy beings. But only specualtory interpretations on their existance. No two belieifs on them is the same.
I also tend to find the good in all people before ever recognizing their darkness.Could be my personal flaw.
Two dreams on the same subject yet neither totally apart. Both relying on interpretation.
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Post by Guest on April 26th 2013, 12:48 pm

Fair enough Laura Ann.There are no permanents in our world ,only
change.I am happy to give the Nephilim a chance.But just to be safe I will
carry a big stick. Praying

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Post by laura ann on April 26th 2013, 1:46 pm


Fair enough Laura Ann.There are no permanents in our world ,only
change.I am happy to give the Nephilim a chance.But just to be safe I will
carry a big stick.
I have not ruled out yet that they may be the monsters of all monsters.
Just havent seen it yet. lol
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Post by sunmystic on April 26th 2013, 2:39 pm

skfarblum wrote:Fair enough Laura Ann.There are no permanents in our world ,only
change.I am happy to give the Nephilim a chance.But just to be safe I will
carry a big stick.

Stephen, how do you carry a big stick against those people (establishing a core of invulnerability)? I carry their genetics and the best that I can do is to try to see them coming and stay out of their way Smile . "Change is the only permanent in our world." One being at peace with that absolute can be a major challenge. For most folks it is gut wrenching and they do not prepare for it. I didn't Smile ! John
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Post by Guest on April 27th 2013, 12:57 am

Dear John and Laura Ann,
I have often felt that being able to laugh at myself and
to see sometimes how ridiculous the masculine posturing
can be is one of the best defenses against allowing the
"the inner Nephilim" to dominate.
Laura is it possible that our view points differ on the Nephilim?.I tend to see them as an inner expression of the worst in the masculine.(John do you also see them like this?)Perhaps Laura you see them as an external expression and don't feel that inner tension which I certainly on occasions feel?
Laura thanks for the compliment on my signature.
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skfarblum wrote:Dear John and Laura Ann,
I have often felt that being able to laugh at myself and
to see sometimes how ridiculous the masculine posturing
can be is one of the best defenses against allowing the
"the inner Nephilim" to dominate.
Laura is it possible that our view points differ on the Nephilim?.I tend to see them as an inner expression of the worst in the masculine.(John do you also see them like this?)Perhaps Laura you see them as an external expression and don't feel that inner tension which I certainly on occasions feel?
Laura thanks for the compliment on my signature.
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Well Laura Ann Smile your response is going to be interesting. Stephen you have coined the phrases, "the inner Nephilim" and "masculine posturing" and that they are related to inner tensions. Humm? First would be that women and men do not think the same, and second, the word "posturing" would send up war flags to a lot of women, which is understandable. And Stephen you define "the inner Nephlilim" as the worst of the masculine. My masculine programming does not have an "inner Nephilim" to it. My masculine side programming is by nature kind and gentle. The "inner Nephilim" in my personality programming comes from the female side of my programming. Stephen you need to define the phrase "masculine posturing". The feeling I get is that a man has to be a certain way or he is not a man. And that the way a man has to be is the worst of the masculine side of things. The feeling I get is that you are describing my female side demon and her definition of what a man should be. At the same time what you seem to be describing is also what creates the most complaints that women have with men, which I think is valid. The question becomes Smile , "How did my female side programming end up with what is suppose to be male side programming?" And it also seems to me that what you are calling "male posturing" is a defensive response to a "vulnerability" threat. If I am not this way, then I am vulnerable. Also just out of curiosity, relative to your approach to things, can women also have an "inner Nephilim"? Love, John

Edit footnote: Basically I feel like I am a woman in a man's body, but I am not gay because I do not like men Smile . Men are idiots Smile but, I am happy that I was born in a man's body because things are so much simpler.
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Post by laura ann on April 27th 2013, 12:02 pm

Well Laura Ann Smile your response is going to be interesting.
not sure exactly what you mean Sunny!!!!!!

frankly I think you just prefer to believe it is a masculine issue Stephen.
I have a monster inside me that I have had the unfortunate experience to meet a couple of times. It takes a great deal to bring her/him forward. Ticking me off, pissing me off, annoying me, making me mad doesnt do it. It takes someone pushing me to the OMG point .Then she comes out ..She frightens even me . Another thing that can almsot bring her out is to harm one of my children or someone i love . She may pull to the surface but not fully erupt...like she is standing and waiting to see if she needs to charge.
One of the reasons I try hard to not get or should say let anyone get me that upset. Cause if I hit that monster point I am simply crazy. I will attack regardless of male or female, size or age.I also seem to become very strong at this time as well. Adrenaline I guess.This has happened three times in my almsot 62 years and I hope to never see her again.
Where Sunny says he feels his is femenine and he should have been femenine I find I am very in touch with my masculine. I was ( older now) as comfortable with a chain saw in my hand and knee deep in mud as I was in lace and pearls. I have been told by several men when I was younger that I intimidated them. I never udnerstood it till later in years. I could do it as well as they could an often quicker and more efficiant. It was always like I just knew how. I do believe it all came from past lives of being men and things I carried over. I believe I was a male in my last life why it was still so strong in this one. Might be why your femenine is so strong in you Sunny you were female in last life.
I can actually see why Stephen you feel it is internal. Years of study and going within has taught me to not jump to others conclusions. So I try to give the benefit of doubt before I decide on things like good and evil.
I am just saying at this time I have no strong conclusion Nephs are evil. We all are if we tap into that part of ourself.
Lordy hope I have ruined the lemon marmalade I am making on the stove..........>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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